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>> that seems like an easy if you have fix. >> i'm not sure that's what happened. you certainly see a lot of isis forces taking on the weapons and the ammunitions left behind. i think it's a distribution problem. again, that's a part of command and control. you have to take the logistics you receive and make sure the soldiers get them. i don't know what exactly happened on the ground ifn that particular case. but bullets weren't enough for cars driving into the cities even the bulldozers you can't fight those off with aq-47s. you have to have larger caliber weapons. that a part of the problem....

Controversies over this military-grade equipment used by police forces. in your view does this language appear to increase tension rather than cool things down? >> i don't think it does, joe. truthfully, i've watched the debate of the issuance of military equipment from the overstocks of equipment that the department of defense has to various police departments. and in standing up for my police brothers and sisters, they are sometimes in a tough fight against material, large caliber weapons. people with bombs that they will need this kind of material equipment. it's not used all the time. but ...

Someone whose got a whole bunch of firearms, okay? and spends a lot of time training with those firearms and thinking about how they are going to use them. and i think, i cannot help but think there's something paranoid and creepy about that. that there's this apocalyptic sense of fear. that we are not imposed reconstruction south, right? the context here matters. the post reconstructive heart, mlk in the heart of dixie in the 1960s. the context here is very different when people had this psychology is very different. explain how i'm wrong on that. >> that's relatively easy. i'm the publisher ...

I wish i had just took my life. >> he says his biggest regret was the pain he caused his 12-year-old son. >> i'm sorry for not being there for him. that wasn't his daddy that did this. this was somebody else. >> you really don't know what causes him to decide to make some of the choices they make and wind up in a situation like sublet did. was it because this guy fired him from his job? everybody has a trigger point. >> for the atf, the best of all possible outcomes. >> safety is the utmost important thing. safety of the public is first, safety of our agents is second and the safety of the sus...

Out of your mind and push them into a corner. it's, like, i don't have anymore corners to push anything away anymore. >> announcer: he's decided to come to terms with them. though he had earlier alluded to having committed murder, he decided to reveal to us the stunning magnitude of his homicide in the past. >> i remember 29 murders in detail from times, dates, places, from caliber weapons, methods used. i remember the sounds of people begging for their lives. i remember people saying no. i remember the smell of blood. >> bowles says his first murder occurred at age 13 and that he used a varie...