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Evidence. >> but if you just subpoenaed the records, some of them that were publicly available, you would have known that roger stone is telling two different stories. which is true is up for you guys to figure out. >> over a period of time, you can figure that out. when he's in there for hour after hour after hour and you don't have contrary evidence before you which in this case we digit, we didn't know that. it took time to put that together. i think this is so important because you're saying that there's evidence of collusion here. >> not a crime. not the conspiracy. collusion is a behavio...

To be honest, you are willing to come on and answer hard questions and i always tell my audience you deserve a pat on the back for that and i know you weren't calling the shots, but i'm saying, you didn't call credico or corsi, the committee, not nunez. you could have. if you were curious about this you would have found the same things evident in the indictment. >> i reject your assumption that we weren't curious about that. of course we were. we called hundreds of witnesses. we had 330,000 pages plus of documents provided to us. you could name dozens of people on this that we didn't call beca...

Stories. which is true is up for you guys to figure out. >> over a period of time, you can figure that out. when he's in there for hour after hour after hour and you don't have contrary evidence before you which in this case we dig digit, we didn't know that. i think this is so important because you're saying that there's evidence of collusion here. >> not a crime. collusion is a behavior. it's not a crime. i'm not saying there's criminal conduct. >> whether you define it as behavior or a crime, i don't care. i don't think there's evidence of either one. >> you know who they say he is, right? ...