So, there some precedent. here i want to just read the what the investigators are zeroing in on and get your reaction. which is this, they instruction increased sense from a phone call the witness had with's ex girlfriend. at some point during the conversation, the ex girlfriend patched gaetz into the call. well it's not known exactly what we see, the discussion on that call essential to whether prosecutors can charge gaetz with obstructing justice. generally as a lawyer you're advising someone of that situation not to be talking to anyone whatsoever, right? >> yes, that's exactly right. if i ...