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Behaving this way with -- fedex was doing this with shipments of widgets we'd be in an uproar. we would be clogging up the customer line because they couldn't find my new pair of shoes i just ordered on zappos, and these are children. >> and if you want to argue about asylum, about whether it's a deterrent, that's fine, have the argument but these are children, if you're going to separate them. count, count and know where they are and i think the three of us are in agreement on that. jason, i want to get your take on something president trump said in montana. this was a political event and he ...

Elderly women, coming up to me and taunting us and saying terrible things. there were people who would come up to us and say i'm sorry about what is happening. one man asked if anyone would lend him his chair. he came back and said thank you for helping us out. my mother really appreciates it. so anderson, what happens often is when people see us who we are, as human beings, they sort of lower the hostility level. but no question about it. when it comes to civility at this country, it starts at the top. the president has to set the example. >> jim acosta, thanks very much. a lot to discuss wit...