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As you testified earlier, the president implicitly threatened you in that call record. and now the president in real time is attacking you. what effect do you think that has on other witnesses' willingness to come forward and expose wrongdoing? >> well, it's very intimidating. >> it's designed to intimidate, is it not? >> i mean, i can't speak to what the president is trying to do, but i think the effect is to be intimidating. >> former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch testifying during the first impeachment trial of donald

Gone missing. the secret service texts we learned about last week, those were all gone. we learned that mark meadows literally burned documents in the white house fireplace about his meeting with representative perry. we also learned that he was using signal, an encrypted app, to communicate with representative perry about the coup and stuff like that. we learned that the photographer on january 6th was banned from the oval office, even though the photographer protested, saying, look, this is important, mr. president, for the history -- for history and our archives. and to say nothing of the w...

Spoke on a phone at the white house residents for ten minutes and jordan took to the house floor to object to the certification of president joojo bidens win. ma who could you tell bus this call? >> the communication that jim jordan had with donald trump on january 6 has long been of interest to not only the january 6 select committee but others who have been investigating the events of that day and for the first time we could learn through these white house call records that were part of the that information of documents that was part of the national archives that was then transferred to the ...

What the reason may be for a gap in that call record. it could be a lot of things. it could be maybe the president didn't want to talk to chris christie for that matter. so we don't know. but we will certainly be endeavoring to find out and we know a lot about what the president was doing during those hours. we know a lot already. and we're learning more each day and that's going to continue. >> while i have you, let me turn to your role as the chair of the house intelligence committee. first of all, do you agree with the top u.s. general in europe who told congress today that intelligence gap...

7-hour gap of call record and then trump not just denying using a burner phone but knowing what it is. we know the company he keeps. keeping the pals over they bring a bottle of wine and prepaid phone cards or something like that. it's ridiculous to think that there isn't something there to investigate. and that's why i think, look, if they call trump in, if the justice department brings him in and determine no crime is committed that's an inspected justice department but what isn't an independent justice department is i'm too worried about the political heat if i do that and start the investi...