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Something done as it relates to taxes because there is a big difference. >> well, for example, when i was visiting with him last week, we had a lot of time together, he talks about tax cuts. so he wants tax reform as well, but he really wants to simplify the tax code and make it pro-growth. leland: do you feel as though he has specifics yet, or are these general themes? because it would be hard to have anybody disagree with what you just said, tax reform and tax cuts, the devil's in the details. does he have specifics or these broad themes? >> he's really laid out principles, as you know. simp...

So those are the things he's laid out as principle, but he has gary cohn and steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary and his chief economic adviser, working with the senate and the house on the specifics, to go to your question. leland: what are the red lines for you personally when it comes to tax cuts? because if it's a deal with the democrats, massive tax cuts for the wealthy like what we saw from kennedy, like what we saw from reagan that spurred huge economic growth won't happen. but he may be able to get a deal with democrats for it. are republicans willing to hold him to real tax cuts tha...