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New to us. he came back and said that he has another big surprise for us. >> he has something that's very difficult to get. >> what? what exactly? >> it's a database. it's about 20 gigabytes. >> now it wasn't just a hacked software program. now it sounded like he had 20 gigabytes of internal data from a company. >> it was software technology that had been stolen from a defense contractor and other information that was not public information. >> what does that mean? >> i can't tell you exactly what that was, but it was a threat to u.s. national security. >> did it escalate the urgency? >> it di...

How big his operation is. >> e-mail is an extremely rich source of evidence for law enforcement, but that doesn't mean you can just read somebody's e-mail in a law enforcement investigation because you're interested. you still have to develop probable cause and obtain a warrant from a federal judge in order to gain access to their e-mail. >> so dave said let's do a few more purchases and let's verify that this wasn't a fluke. me and my counterpart went through another website. we sent a western payment to xiang li for these two programs. same thing. sent us download links later that day. xiang...

So in december of 2009 i had joined the investigations unit for hsi in philadelphia. it sounds very technical, but all it is is just try to prevent u.s. technology from getting into the wrong hands. >> illegal acquisitions of u.s. goods and technology can assist our adversaries in harming u.s. soldiers. citizens and allies. >> basically what we do is we go out to companies all around the country so that they know who we are and can call us if they see any wrongdoing. so my first outreach was to a company called agi. they're a u.s. defense contractor. and they produce complex three-dimensional ...

So in december of 2009 i had joined the in philadelphia. it sounds very technical, but all it is is just troo toy troo prevent u.s. technology from getting into the wrong hands. >> illegal acquisitions of u.s. goods and technology can assist our adversaries in harming u.s. soldiers. citizens and allies. >> basically what we do is we go out to companies all around the country so that they know who we are and can call us if they see any wrongdoing. so my first outreach was to a company called agi. they produce complex three-dimensional simulation software called stk, satellite tool kit. that was...

Get him to travel, so i wanted to tread lightly. and then he introduced something new to us. he came back and said that he has another big surprise for us. >> he has something that's very difficult to get. >> what? what exactly? >> it's a database. it's about 20 gig abites. >> now it wasn't just a hacked software program. now it sounded like he had 20 gig abites of internal data from a company. >> it was software technology that had been stolen from a defense contractor and other information that was not public information. >> what does that mean? >> i can't tell you exactly what that was, but...