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Chamberlain flew to munich, i think it was his third time flying there, meeting with hitler and receiving assurances and coming away with a deal. a deal that history has reviled as appeasement. it's a satisfaction and comfort to me that smart people like john kerry are in geneva and they remember follies like that that happened in the past. >> i'm very glad for your historical perspective. thanks for that. with regard to the negotiations under way and possibility of easing sanctions with iran, where do you stand on that? >> well, obviously, we have to take a firm view of it. i understand that ...