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Well, good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 916 of this trump administration. robert mueller was a reluctant witness, and it showed. it was a long day on capitol hill seven hours from start to finish. the 89th and 90th congressional hearings in his lifetime of public service and likely his last. by the end of the day he said everything the democrats were trying to prove. it's not a witch hunt. it was not a hoax. he could not clear the president. and the russians are interfering in our election process right now. but declarative sentences were hard to find...

I mean he literally rolled up his sleeve and they drew blood to conduct biologic testing. there is precedent for a president giving testimony in front of a grand jury like this and i'm very sorry bob mueller's team gave up on that. >> frank, last question. do you share jeremy's passion on this and were they outplayed by jay sekulow and rudy giuliani? >> i'm struggling with the time constraint factor. i see it as artificial. and i think there's more to the story that we know. i'm not saying that somebody pressured mueller to close the thing, but i think he may have taken the weight of the world...

Heard for gps. bob mueller is not turning on fox news or msnbc. people told us that over and over again. i'm not sure that's a strength. to understand, if you want justice to be done, if you want -- >> see what you're saying about you. >> if you want the world to understand the truth that you spent two years uncovering, and that's what you want, you want people to want justice to be done, you got to understand what the modern media environment is in which that truth, that truths can be conveyed and justice can be sought. his pre-modernness, i think, worked against him in some sense, in the lar...

As negotiations with president trump's lawyers about interviewing him dragged on, for example, mr. mueller took part less and less. is that, frank, what you think we saw today? >> well, we didn't see the man that i served as fbi director. but we saw a man who is approaching age 75 in a couple of weeks. the question we have to ask ourselves is so what? what is the impact of that age factory if any? and my response to that is this. we are living in a society that likes drama and noise and elevated voices. and seemingly over facts and findings. so mueller's facts and findings would not be any dif...

Disappointment in the democratic ranks on the hill tonight. >> so josh, that's interesting. they might have put too many hopes and dreams in lieu of a work product into robert mueller. any talk that jerry nadler isn't perhaps up to the job? >> i don't think so. i mean, i don't think it's simply nadler, although i think if you're intimating, brian, that the intelligence hearing was more revealing and it seemed that mueller was more on his game there, the questions were i think more pointed and there were more direct response. you had the chairman there, adam schiff, engage in a direct sort of r...