Page 17 - Calling 911 News Today : Breaking News, Live Updates & Top Stories | Vimarsana

And the question came up why didn't you go to the windows in none of us are trained in alert. just average citizens. but we ran through scenarios, like, they didn't try anything. they were trained to do a lot of things and they didn't do any of them. they stood on a closing ends of a hallway, and they didn't do anything. knowing that there is kids in there dying, knowing there is kids in there screaming and crying. calling 911, and they didn't breach. they all just need to be removed. that's what the families want. i know -- i spoke to two dads yesterday about this, and they just -- they want ...

Yes, you can ... sometimes.

In other words, someone has to say this is an active shooter situation, everyone run in and essentially eliminate the threat. that's it. there's no risk calculation. there's no weighing of the evidence. there's no could we save more kids if we got these kids out and kept those kids -- none of that goes into play. we've learned from 20 years of school shootings certainly since columbine and mass shootings that the best way to save lives in that moment is to eliminate the threat. everything else can be taken care of after. and so these questions, for example, that you and boris are asking, which...

Circumstances. i'm sure this week has been unimaginable for you. when you learned the details today, for more than an hour, there were 19 officers outside that classroom while children were calling 911, pleading for help. what was your reaction? >> i mean, i'm in just disbelief. you know, whenever all this stuff happened, i was actually showed up at the school and i was trying to be one of those calm parents while others were panicking and trying to take action, i was trying to just be, you know, just calm-headed and let the officers do their job like they asked us to, you know, they're tellin...

After 21 people including 19 children were massacred in a school shooting in uvalde. >> the existence in evil in our world is not a reason to disarm law-abiding citizens who know how to use their weapon and can protect a lot of people. the existence of evil is one of the best reasons to arm law-abiding citizens. >> reporter: instead of new gun laws, the former president calling for more focus on mental health and school security. >> what we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all across our country. >> reporter: those arguments echoed by others who address the nra's annual...