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Credible way. it does not seem as though republicans in congress maybe the bar order of the president's faith are bothered by it. they seem to be describing behaviors like this by americans come and arriving in london and driving on the side of the road and does not know what he's doing. and not that they think this is some true transgression that deserves this statement. >> talk about the president calling burr but the people around burr. if everything is reported in the new york times tonight is correct, were any laws broken? >> this is good evidence for the obstruction of justice is taken. ...

Strong enough for a separate obstruction case, but it's very good evidence of his intent, his motivations with respect to the other obstruction case with firing comey. so i think it's important. i don't think it sets up a separate criminal case. >> i have a recollection being a young man that ignorance of the law was no defense. and i see this emerging in "the new york times" reporting, people are saying look, he was new to government and the ways of the federal government. is that a defense? >> not to me. it's not a defense under the law. but it's also not a defense in this case, because we k...

Looking at side by side quotes. the president to comey. the president to senator burr as quoted by the principles as turned around and reported by the news media. patterning does not make something true but patterning mak makes subsequent cases available. >> that's right. the president exhibited this behavior towards a variety of people. the fundamental question is, is this a man that truly believes that this is all over blown and unfair and should be wrapped up because of some kind of great and justice or this one has something to hide. the former, the reason to take seriously of the ladder c...

Bothered by it. they describe this behavior as an american comes to london and drives on the right side of the road and is clueless. and not that they think this is some true transgression that deserves a punishment. and that is a remarkable state of affairs. >> kons locounselor, joyce vancd about the president calling burr, but then the people around burr, if everything as reported in "the new york times" tonight is correct, were any laws broken? >> well, i think this is pretty good evidence of the obstruction case that we had going already, the obstruction of the russia investigation that th...

Block back from that led to the mueller investigations. we know that he knew by now that you are not supposed to obstruct investigations where they are into you and your campaigns. so that does not fly at all. >> ken, how surprise were you to see these on the record quoting that senator burr fell compel to talk to the "time" on the record and there were other senators who were helping to paint the picture as well. this comes in advance of some important meetings on the hill. donald jr. will be meeting with the house next week. senator burr says he also wants to meet with don jr. before the end...