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Obama for 8 years isn't the full story. sara: he was hired under the bush administration and is a registered republican. he's a republican trying to do his job. even though the media is conflating it. nobody knows what's going on in mueller's head. howie: the president said he probably won't be sitting down with an interview with mueller. he wants to bring it to a head. could this escalation be a result of the president being immersed in this conversation with his lawyers. mo: he probably got rid of jeff sessions he wanted to get rid of

Howie: it put much of the media including fox news' of none condoning the behavior. behavior. what would you say was the most of challenging thing about interviewing donald trump. chris: when you ask him a question he'll give you an answer. but sometimes there is a lot of other stuff around it. my first question was how dark is your mood and he proceeds to go into he's fine. but then he talks about the white house, and he went into it. then you have to edit him not to censor him, but because you are trying to get the answer out of a camouflage, out of the under brush. howie: you said to him qu...

It's phoney. i don't any bad news if i am wrong. howie: i sat down with him on the set of "fox news sunday." fascinating interview. i don't mind getting bad news if i'm wrong. what did you make of that since the president rarely admits he's wrong. chris: i was sanction t -- i wao have that interview because i haven't had an interview with him since 2016. i talked about it a lot and have won press awards and given speeches on it. i wanted to confront him with my thoughts, you can criticize the media and some of the coverage has been bias. but don't call us the enemy of the people. when he went ...

Say i'm not talking about you, i'm talking about cnn. i said don't say we are the enemy of the people because we are not. howie: he said fake news is 80% of the media by his opinion. does he use it as an effective foil? chris: i think he feels he's been the victim of bad reporting and he says -- so all of our successes get downplayed. again, there is some truth in that. even hypochondriacs sometimes get sick. while he does feel in some cases genuinely aggrieved, when he was

Defending it he talked in terms of my supporters and they get it. i think he sees it as a wedge issue that helps him at the expense of the media and media criticism and the expense of his political opposition. howie: you asked him about a spate of stories about the mid-terms. let's take a look. >> how dark is your mood? president trump: it's very light. it's disgusting fake news. i wrote a front page on "the washington post." nobody ever calls me. they make it up like it's fiction. howie: he says nobody ever calls me and they could get the reporter on the line very