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The reason they wanted to fire roseanne was, i mean, she used to be kind of a left-wing loon. she became a trump supporting still kind of a loon. but she had a wildly popular program, and apparently was popular with trump supporters who enjoy calling racists. >> laura: can you see they're maybe trying to reboot the show without her, with just her daughter, who is obviously the more liberal character, which john goodman said, i would be up for that. half of the country who voted, voted for trump, roughly. all of these people are looking for something that just doesn't offend them on a minute-by...

Political because then they can mobilize blacks and other minorities to vote for the left and tie in republican white guy s or a rb black guy with the supremacists you know. some believe it's a political play here. do you see it that way? >> if it's a political play i think it's a bad, bad move because let's first take why it should be a political play. liberals see the answer to almost everything in government. so if they can say this is a racist country well what's the solution? more government. more money. more trillions spent on programs that very often don't work. but the reason i say i d...