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Will grow, continue to grow those industries, continue to grow the opportunities. it is about investing in the right way at the right time. gareth, it is so good to talk to. thank you for being with us on the programme. it is clear this is also about creating jobs and business. but is it also about governments protecting their own economies? camela dower is an expert on trade law at the university of sussex. it is good to have you on the programme. if you take the word green out of the subsidies it is essentiallyjust state aid, isn't it? yes, it is state aid. the differences in the eu it is ve...

Camela dower is an expert on trade law at the university of sussex. it is good to have you on the programme. let me put this to you. if you take the word green out of the subsidies it is essentiallyjust state aid, isn't it? yes, it is state aid. the difference is in the eu it is very carefully regulated under this framework whereas in the us, they are not so interested in international laws and norms to regulate their subsidies. talk to me about the difference. why is the us taking such a different approach to the eu? the us is, in terms of a power game, the us has always felt it has been able...