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March deadline and suddenly -- this is all about leverage. the leverage shifts and suddenly the democrats are in trouble. if they don't make a deal then all the dreamers lose their protected status on march 5th. but if you make the stand now, then you've got more leverage because you have all the way from now until march 5 to try to force a deal from the republicans. they think they have more leverage now to force a daca deal to their liking than they will as it gets closer to the march 5 deadline. >> bill: 72 hours ago you had the verbal firing squad in the oval office, lindsey graham and dic...

They want a government shutdown as leverage and taking funding for the governments and our troops hostage. they are open about that. it's their strategy. in 2013 senator schumer said this very tactic represents governmental chaos and now he is actively orchestrating a shutdown. he started a new #by the way. #schumer shutdown. >> the democrats are exactly doing what they always blame republicans are doing, which is holding the federal government budget process hostage to their own -- what they would call extreme political views. think about this. what chuck and nancy are doing, pelosi and schum...

>> sandra: what do you think we're about to hear from the white house? >> they'll say it will have consequences to national security and consequences for a lot of americans who are counting on government services in one form or fashion. what we've heard is they may not try to exaggerate the influence of the government shutdown to make american people suffer for it but they will say there will be real consequences of this and that they are trying to work the phones to try to get a deal in the final hours. trying to get something together to keep the lights on and keep negotiations continuing. t...

>> i'm not prepared to do that right now. i think the vote this afternoon looks challenging to keep the government open. it seems they're pretty determined to shut it down. i think the negotiations will probably continue all the way up until midnight and i think we'll have to wait until it plays out. >> sandra: when the white house looks at what led to this point, are there any regrets about how the administration has handled their message on all of this in looking back could anything have been done differently to have avoided this? >> candidly what i think a lot of what is happening here, the...