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Somebody famous, it's hard. >> even after my blog post has gone public, even after i have gone public, having to relive this experience, people still question and not want to believe me. so what hope does that give someone who is not in the public eye. howie: we appreciate you having the conversation on camera today. bill maher calls out the media bill maher calls out the media for phoney outrage stories.

Somebody famous, it's hard. >> even after my blog post has gone public, even after i have gone public, having to relive this experience, people still question and not want to believe me. so what hope does that give someone who is not in the public eye. howie: we appreciate you having the conversation on camera today. bill maher calls out the media for phoney outrage stories.

Tamping it down is the way it was described to me and the way it was portrayed to those who appeared on camera today. they're trying to say that the process which looked messy from the outside was more about understanding they were dealing with a person they knew and respected in the job and then they were confronted by facts that they had to address. here's kellyanne conway, counselor to the president explaining that piece of it. >> the president is very disturbed by what he sees, absolutely. you can feel -- look, you can feel that somebody did a great job for you, you can talk about somebody...

Full transparency, let's let the information get out there, make sure it's done so in a way that's responsible, respects the fib's methods and sources. we do not want that compromise. and let the people, let the media vet this and make the decisions themselves. >> what do you think -- what do you make of reports people inside the white house are concerned that the president should not sit down with robert mueller? you have outside advisers gingrich and christie both on camera today. let's watch. >> my strongest advice to the president is to never be interviewed by mueller. >> robert mueller is...

He's been on the phones with republican lawmakers but he's also been issuing tweets going after democrats. we can put one up on the screen that deals with the issue of immigration. it basically says at this point that democrats are to blame for all of this because they've been digging in their heels on immigration. obviously, that is the issue that is -- at play here. democrats are not going to go for a cr at this point until they see some kind of tangible promise from this white house that they're going to get some kind of action on daca and those d.r.e.a.m.ers. wolf, one thing that the presi...