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Reduce the top rate and close loop holes. in concept you are in favor of that. >> go back to camp roth. you were the '80s. >> sure. and in general the direction should be lower rates and clean out the earmarking. not only in the appropriation but the tax code as best we can. we'll have to keep some charitable contribution. but have it more transparent and less cronyism and reflected by earmarking in the tax code. >> you mentioned health care . one of the competitors mitt romney pass a prominent health care bill in that state which he has continued to defend. what is the main difference betwe...

About reducing the top rate and closing some loopholes, in concept, you are in favor of that. >> yes. in fact i go back to camp roth. you and i are both early enough to remember the early 180s: there in general, the direction shut be lower rates and clean out the earmarking, not just in the appropriations but clean out the earmarking in the tax code as best we can we will have to keep some charitable contributions and home interest deduction. flatter, more transparent, less cronyism reflected by earmarking in the tax code. >> paul: you mentioned health care. of course, one of your potential co...