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So this will only ratchet up the tension between the two branches of government. and in in latest example today, the white house has directed hope hicks who was a former white house official, a close adviser to president trump and the deputy white house counsel anne donaldson to not turn over documents to the judiciary committee during the time at the white house. arguing that the documents could fall under confidentiality. they could be subject to executive privilege concerns. in both cases, anne donaldson and hope hicks are abiding by that. the committee does say through jerry nadler, the ch...

Clinton. we know that there were thesseries of communications about business deals, about russians offering dirt on hillary clinton, julian assange and wikileaks offering information that was then dumped. >> martha: but you don't know if there is any connection between the administration and those things as far as can i tell. >> the president's campaign manager, why would the president's campaign manager give secret campaign documents to a russian agent? again, martha, i'm reserving judgment. what i have said throughout this. >> martha: we all are. >> i'm going to reserve judgment until all th...

That are frank lily illegal to publish. if he's charged with, for instance, the brandon manning documents or vault documents, the dauks thocuments that had t with the manner in which they tap phones, under the espionage act, that tells us mueller is not looking to pursue him in the hacking of the campaign. >> right. >> then the natural follow from that is he's also not going to be charging people with the hacking of the campaign. so either it's the documents or is he charging him with actually hacking of the campaign documents with the help of the russians, which make them co-conspirators, whi...

Said it made up the bulk of the application. you know, i think that's pretty much a confirmed fact, it was a big part. on the other hand, there was other stuff, we know that the application mentioned carter page's history heeshs had been -- there was an attempt to recruit him by russians a few years earlier. that was in the application. so we don't know what's in the rest and that's what everybody hopes, this declassification might bring us. >> tucker: yep. the obama administration used hillary clinton campaign documents to justify spying on hillary's opponent, that's what we may learn. byron ...

That it played a central role, said it made up the bulk of the application.ap so i think of that is pretty much a confirmed fact, that it was a big part. on the other hand, there was other stuff. we know that the application mentioned carter page's history. he had been attempted -- there was an attempt by some russianst to recruit him a few years earlier. that was in the application. we don't know what is an arrest. that is what everybody hopes this declassification may bring us. >> tucker: yep. the obama administration used hillary clinton campaign documents to justify spying on hillary's opp...