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>> i'm born to run. >> the thing is he doesn't have a message right now. >> i want one. >> it's all goop. and but i will say this, one thing that people running beto's campaign know and they're all obama's people because in december obama decided this was going to be his candidate and he's thrown everything he has at beto, god help me, i don't understand why. he doesn't have a message, though. i will say this about that much money, the thing i was told at the beginning of my first campaign is, y, you want the thousand dollars, you want the 2,000. but somebody gives you $25, that person give yo...

Hackers. he hasn't made that link in this indictment, he's charged roger stone with lying. but there's a particular passage where he seems to be suggesting to wikileaks that they focus on hillary clinton's health, for example. he seems to be encouraging them to release certain things at certain points. and so that to me is crucial. if robert mueller can prove that roger stone went beyond just simply soliciting information from wikileaks, which after all journalists have done, and went beyond that to actually coordinating with wikileaks, suggesting courses of action, that gets us closer to coll...

Point. the question is did anyone in the trump campaign know or assist, that is, collude with the russian government to assist trump win the election? that has the potential to be illegal. stone is the potential intermediary between wikileaks which got these hacked e-mails from the russians to the trump campaign. these -- these e-mails suggest there were certainly conversations going on about that wikileaks effort. it's suggestive but it's not proof of a crime yet, i don't think. >> sara, from roger stone gets into trouble does that implicate the trump campaign because almost every other day t...

That target. that has nothing to do -- i'm not saying anything badly about these people per se for that. with that said, there is, and this is the president's fault in some ways, there is smoke. as i said, none of us would have been going through this, had the president not hosted the russians less than 24 hours after he fired comey. why would you do that? so, i agree that there's more information that eventually will come out. obviously, michael flynn flipping to the extent that gates has already flipped. the pressure they're putting on manafort i believe to flip. the idea that other people r...

Color me skeptical about richard burr's bipartisan credentials but he got mark warner to sign on to this investigation. democrats have a lot of faith in him. the things we know are stunning, the rugs hacked the democrats, did it because they preferred trump, and putin approved it because he preferred trump. we know they timed it to do maximum damage to democrats. we don't know if trump's campaign know or collude. >> u.s. intelligence says this is what they believe. it went to the highest levels and that means putin. they haven't said we know 100% vladimir putin -- >> i watched the public testi...