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About $150,000 payment to porn stars in the final days of a campaign which they tried to cover up. that seems to be far, far more serious and would that not be in a candidate's mind seen as illegal behavior? >> you know, look both on the donor side and on the campaign side, there's incredible compliance requirements, incredible compliance efforts to go on. identify seen people make a contribution act suddenly that was over the limit, that the campaign keeps their records, they sends back texas sees. when we do fundraisers we have to be very careful both what we contribute and everybody else co...

And so clearly trump wants someone by his side that is going to be willing to be more of a political animal the way he likes to be. >> sean, if you could add to that y do y that, why do you think trump is considering nick ayers on the job? >> we're seeing trump in his campaign and inner circle start to pivot more to 2020. you're seeing officials like the political director moving over to the campaign side and ayers is a departure from john kelly who came from outside government who was not experienced in campaigns and the ways of washington and working with congress. so this does appear to be ...

Works for vice president pence and is close to pence's world. also airs is somebody who is lessen solved in the national security foreign policy piece of it or that's the expectations if he were to go to the west wing. and that is where a lot of the focus is inside the white house. as we turn into the new year, you saw two white house aides, steppy and clark, names that may not be familiar, but who are involved in the politics operation in the west wing. they're officially moving over to the trump campaign side. another long expected announcement. busy morning though for sure on this friday. >...

Role to that a president has had in the pennsylvania he's supposed to have many would argue of being a moral leader through crisis and leading byual on these things. instead a president who thrives on division and feels like unifying people, bringing the company together doesn't benefit him politically. so instead of looking at his role as a moral leader, president trump cares about winning, the campaign side of this he has seen in the past some success from dividing people. that's how he continues to go that route. >> is it all about his base right now? he thinks that works snow. >> i think a...

Imprisonment basically, is going to have to turn in his ostrich jacket for a jump suit, it's going to be focused on the russian investigation and putting together that case that's going to put an end to this whole idea that nothing happened on the campaign side with the russians. >> all right. we're going to talk a little bit about the manafort trial now. john harwood and jessica levinson, thank you both for joining us. i want to turn to that other bombshell news. paul manafort guilty, convicted on eight counts including false tax returns, failing to file foreign bank account reports and two c...