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The campaign. papadopoulos was interacting. how long does mike pence get to stay in the curtains? >> it's a great question. bob mueller's been conducting this investigation going around talking to a number of people in the white house. he's interviewed numbers of people in the white house, interviewed reince priebus, interviewed the former press secretary. if mike pence had any involvement both either on the campaign side or obstruction of justice side through the involvement of firing of jim comey or other things he claimed he knew notion about until after the fact, we'll hear about it. pence...

>> go ahead -- >> no, it's -- look, i mean, you can dismiss it, but there's no payment to miss mcdougal -- >> that is true. i am not -- >> the cnn.com story is very clear to that point. so i don't see -- >> we're not debating that. >> i don't see what's inaccurate here -- >> the question is -- i think we've laid out what is inaccurate. the campaign says that they had no knowledge of any of this. we now know that the president, indeed, had or then candidate had knowledge of it. that on its face is -- is the truth versus what we were told two months later. >> we're going to have to agree to disa...

It depends on the area. look at places like california where republicans are defending very vulnerable -- inland california areas is maybe not the best place for them to have immigration looming over. separations of families polls very badly. a lot of moderate republicans that want to solve the issue and a number of issues were hardened by the presencepreside tweet. >> the president said during his rally, they want to pin it on democrats saying they are for open borders. it's a really bad thing they want to go by. democrats do not want to campaign on immigration author must democrats i talked ...

President obama wouldn't do that. i thought that was a big mistake. the president did go down while on the campaign side. i think would be appropriate for him to visit, hear from the men and women working from him in the customs and border enforcements and the o.r. office is up my jurisdiction. i'll tell you, they do a good job. it's a tough job they have. but you ow, the last administration, i had to fight to get a doctor down to o.r.r. to look into are we letting people with diseases in. the obama administration was insensitive to that. >> dana: of course, you're a doctor, too. we may have t...

Up? was it obstruction of justice? to your other point, donald trump jr. is an unreliable witness. can't recall many thing. he made an interview weeks after this meeting and he called that a sick and disgusting lie that was concocted by the democrats all the while knowing that he had had a meeting with people he thought were representatives of the russian government offering incriminating information on hillary clinton. >> but it was colorful language nevertheless. let's take a moment to step back and revisit who we know was in the 2016 trump tower meeting. on the campaign side, trump jr., t...