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What is the learning curve. how do i get some more discipline? we watched him do this, marc, at different points during the campaign. he got disciplined, he gave policy-oriented speeches, we talked about how he put together some good days in a row. that made the difference. >> absolutely. the pylon and further agreement with karl rove, the specific day he ought to look back on in terms of what work was his address to congress. on that night, americans looked at him and said, there is a president. he was being presidential. he didn't have to do this tweeting. he doesn't have to do this crazy ca...

Not having agent of the turkish government. perhaps some dealings with the russians that predate his involvement in the trump campaign, that we don't know about. i suspect it's personal stuff. it's not campaign stuff, and it's not going to help the investigation of russian tampering. >> chris: then we've got the white house offering and today devin nunes, the -- i'm sorry, adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intel committee as we saw, taking them up on their offer to go to the white house to the nsc to see the intelligence that devin nunes got to see. that only happened after the "new y...

Jen, one of your colleagues on the campaign, she said on msnbc about the trump campaign and the russians, i believe that there was collusion. i believe that the trump staff, trump associates in some form, were at a minimum coordinating with wikileaks. in the timing of the leaks they were way too prepared. when wikileaks came out with their leak du jour in the morning the trump campaign was ready to go with their statement about that." she's saying her impression. what is your view on that point, what did you observe in that regard? there is a lot of connections to the trump campaign and russia...

Cleelgs on the campaign, she said on msnbc about the trump cam make and the russians, i believe that there was collusion. i believe that the trump staff, trump associates in some form, were at a minimum coordinating with wikileaks. in the timing of the leaks they were way too prepared. when wikileaks came oud with their leak due your in the morning the trump campaign was ready to go with their statement about that." she's saying her impression. what is your view on that point, what did you observe in that regard? >> there is a lot of connections to the trump campaign and russia that we need to...

The wikileaks stuff that was happening and the trump campaign stuff, did it seem coordinated? did you see evidence of anything -- >> we were seeing rt tweet the wikileaks dump of the day before wikileaks did. >> that's collusion between russian government and wikileaks. >> roger stone during the campaign said that he was back-channeling with julian assange. he seemed to predict the podesta e-mails. he recently came out he was direct messaging with guccifer 2 -- >> not a formal campaign adviser but a long-time associate of mr. trump? >> a long-time confidant who has publicly taken credit for pa...