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Contextually answer those kinds of questions. i mean, from an ethical and moral standpoint i don't think something like this should be done. for now, in may be politically necessary or something like that. but say it takes three or four, five six years to build something like this and the politics of the situation have changed. then what with? like this is there for a long time. >> they will help to define who we are as a country. >> this isn't a tea cup this isn't something that can be gotten rid of. a whole other part of this is there are parts of the border where the infrastructure to build...

What -- you know, what public are we talking about? whose health are we talking about? what does safety actually mean? engineers i feel and firms need to be equipped at least contextually answer those kinds of questions. i mean, from an ethical and moral standpoint i don't think something like this should be done. for now, in may be politically necessary or something like that. but say it takes three or four, five six years to build something like this and the politics of the situation have changed. then what with? like this is there for a long time. >> they will help to define who we are as a...