transgender patients, transgender adolescents healthcare and gender confirmation surgery. >> brian: here we go. campus reform correspondent mckenna graduate student at that school and joins us now. matt, how surprised are you this is in the curriculum? >> unfortunately i m not surprised at all based on a lot of things that have opened at loyola in the past couple years. >> steve: what does the pope say about transgender surgery? >> he is actually quoted as saying gender ideology is demonic. >> ainsley: let me play devil s advocate. dr. siegel saying you just learn about organs, you learn to treat every patient equally because we were doing a story some say that some doctors can be racist. and you might not agree with your patient s lifestyle or what they do if you are a catholic. you might not religiously agree with that. but do you still need to learn all of this so that you can talk to your patients when they come in to see you?