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because a video games or because of this and this. then you are like, there is a -- there like, no, it is because of this. the keep stepping over the gun that is lying in the middle of the room. that is the biggest part of the problem. that is one part of it. the hypocrisy when they talk about mental health is amazing to me. greg abbott said that yesterday. greg abbott said that we have a mental health, with a deal with the mental health. i had 2% agreed that. greg abbott cut $200 million out of the mental health budget. there was a budget related to helping kids with mental health, he cut it by almost a quarter of a billion dollars, two months ago. i think that they're doing everything possible to distract from the fundamental problem, which is access to guns but people that should not have guns. that is the fundamental problem. everything else that they point to is a distraction from what is sitting in the middle of the room. >> then, harold, as parents, how do we understand when it is
hans. when your brand is not only know but hell no, no matter how bad it gets, does not matter if kids are murdered in sandy hook -- i grew up in and a credibly small town. it does not matter if the people in our small town that i lived in were shot and killed in las vegas or parkland, or sutherland springs, or the pulse nightclub, or virginia tech -- the answer is, hell no, every time. when something happens in uvalde and the brand of your organization is, how no. when somebody says are you going to cancel your convention? it is, hell no. this is what our politics is. our local school boards have this invested. everything that you care about, every single thing, women's reproductive rights, climate policy, it is all invested by this all or nothing politics at the nra figured out 15 or 18 years ago and loaned to the political right. here we are, and kids are dying because of it. it is so incredibly sad.
we're talking about arming our teachers and hardening our schools. a good save education is everything. is there a way we can find a path here? >> i used to be a third grade teacher, as i think you know. and i cannot think of anything that would be more costly, that would be more incorrect in this moment. than to on teachers. look, we already have a system of an equitable education. putting arms in the hands of teachers, who are already dealing with so much in the situation, who are already underpaid and overworked, who already have dealt with covid, certainly not the path we need to be going down. you heard it said before on the program, more guns, very simply, does not equal more safety. at the end of the day, i think that the opportunity we really have in the classroom, and through the lens of education is actually to upward the culture of violence. i agree with the speaker that spoke earlier, this question of division and polarization is actually the wrong one to be
it was because they began to be funded solely by gun manufacturers. i think the and are a and whether it happened around columbine or not before the, fundamentally change this. but i think right now to me, today, with the nra is doing in houston is awful. but even if the nra disbanded completely, the virus exists in america. >> nikole, what do you think? >> i am fascinated by this idea of the virus and the data and myths. there is so much data. everything you said is so true about how this isn't is true. the data points to evidence in the opposite direction. however, i am fascinated to hear from you too can owners, how do we breakthrough that fear that the nra has propagated across everyone, in terms that you need to have more guns, you need to protect yourself from home invasions -- what is the way to reach that middle part of america that
isn't picking up on this? how do we give them cover and reach them? i don't think the data arguments are working. how do we combat fear with a different set of emotions and give them different options to take? >> ryan? >> i think people like matthew and i have to stand up and be examples. the fact that the matter is that this works. it is much more fragile -- i agree with everything that matthew said, there is a virus here, like trump, it is like the coronavirus. if the source goes away, the wind is the blowing, it is the rushing across the country. people like us, responsible gun owners, people that believe in decency and gun reform, we have to stand up and be examples. the truth is that the nra has been exceptionally adept at keeping responsible people quiet. they are loud, they are bullies, they take the mic, they scream, they throw, they castigate people, they trailed my family
just gun safety. americans are divided on abortion, education, masks, vaccines, everything associated with a pandemic. as time magazine once put it, our nation is still divided, along the battle lines of the civil war. so how do we fix it? let's welcome, presidential historian, douglas brinkley. he's also a history professor at bryce university, and msnbc political analyst britney patrick awning him, she was a member of president obama's 21st century precinct policing task force. doug, it is stuff to hear a u.s. senator talk about the rotting core in america. how sick and divided are we as a country, when you look, historically speaking? >> we're extremely sick and divided. it's not a civil war situation. we were divided in the 1960s, and late 70s. we pulled back together a little bit, to the point that after newtown massacre in december of 2012, there was some hope after sandy hook elementary school that there might be some gun legislation.
asking. i often think that polarization is really a misnomer, for the threat that power and privilege perceives, when marginalized people finally have their turn, and there say. the fact of the matter is, this is not just two ends of the spectrum, and to equal but opposite ends. we're talking about folks who are dealing in trafficking, and the politics of supremacy and exclusion. or folks like us, who are trying to ensure that equity is actually the name of the game. so early not talking about polarization at the core. we are talking about an american culture of violence. we cannot deal with the fact that a culture of violence that is deeply american, pervades absolutely everything, without dealing with the fact that america as a colonial project. you can't, honestly, talk about america being a colonial project, if you do not deal with the genocide of indigenous people, and the enslavement of african people. you cannot deal with those things, if the school districts and libraries are cow tailing to parents, who refuse to have
take. that is what we teach kids and the adults around them around the country, how to recognize the signs, everything from bullying and isolation up to the cutting, dating violence, substance abuse to suicide and homicide, and how to talk to a trusted adult. we can train every single kid in the country, eventually, i hope, but we still require that behavioral change for everyone to lean in and be those -- this is about kids taking control of their own safety and community, which i would imagine would be a positive benefit to the mental health and wellness. >> matt, do you believe our lawmakers are really looking for solutions because in the last few days, when republicans keep talking about mental health and school security, many of the same republicans are voting against funny schools and putting mental health education. >> well i find amazing is that they are looking at everything but the problem. they are looking at everything, they're putting everything. they are putting out that it is
making an impact, because things don't seem to change. >> no, i never question it, because i know for a fact we're having an impact. i know how many lives with saved. i know how many school shootings we averted, and i know it's a solution at the model that absolutely works, but it just needs to be scalp. but it's about that. it's about getting that teaching out to more people. can't prevent everything, but you can certainly decrease the number, significantly. >> thank you so much. nicole, matthew, don't go anywhere. doctor harold, thank you so much. you always make us smarter every time you hear. >> when we come back, guns, this is the issue. they're just the tip of the iceberg. when you tip dig into the deep divisions of america, abortion, the pandemic, culture wars, a look at why the united states is so divided, and if we can even begin to fix the problem, when our 11th hour special, enough is enough, continues. when our 11th hour special enamel in its weakened state.