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Country and as a business, news business, but at this point are you worried or concerned about the potential of collusion between elements of the trump campaign and russian intelligence services? >> yes. there's two ways to look at how russian active measures get propelled amongst the trump campaign. is it coordination and synchronization? at times we saw people on twitter say, i've talked too goose fer. the other part is opportunism. why would you look at russian propaganda to go against your american opponent? that's crazy, especially coming from a republican candidate looking back to the re...

If he alienates trump, he alienates that population. i also think for the primary, the way i think about the primary is two contests happening at once. once for the beast and one for the establishment candidates to come out and say really strongly they don't agree with trump. i'm curious to see if we see that in the first stage. >> when we get to the debate stage, if your slice is the conservative slice, you have huckabee and ted cruz do you let him be on the alddonald trump and let him hold it? >> if donald trump is taking the oxygen you go where he is. he's the only candidate siding with don...