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This is a very important point to make. the president cannot affect state prosecutions and state crimes through the pardon power. there are some complicated procedures, but let's say the question is if trump then tells manafort or flynn, hold on. just toe the party line, and i'll make sure to pardon you, if there are new york or other attorneys general and other state prosecutors stepping forward, they cannot count on that pardon to save them. they will have to face the pressure and will face state pressure to cooperate and turn state's witness. so it's important for schneiderman and mueller t...

Pushback. >> let me address the significance of connecting with new york attorney general eric schneiderman. this is say very significant development particularly because we're hearing increasingly that there is discussion behind closed doors about trump and pardons for this circle. this is a very important point to make. the president cannot affect state prosecutions and state crimes through the pardon power. there are some complicated procedures, but let's say the question is if trump then tells manafort or flynn, hold on. just toe the party line, and i'll make sure to pardon you, if there a...