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But from my intelligence and what dr. carson's been told by people on the ground involved in that area of the world, it has been told to him many times over and over that the chinese are there. but as far as our intelligence and the briefings that dr. carson's been in, and i've certainly been in with him, he's certainly been told that the chinese are there. >> "as far as our intelligence." republican presidential front-runner ben carson and his campaign say that the source of his claim that the chinese are operating militarily in syria is dr. ben carson's own secret intelligence that he cannot...

Dr. carson did make his top staffer available to msnbc to explain the "they." >> you said -- not on the ground in syria. i understand what you're saying, with the brevity of time, but dr. carson said that the chinese were -- are in syria, which is not accurate. >> well, tammra, from your perspective and what most people know, maybe that is inaccurate, but from my intelligence and what dr. carson's been told by people on the ground involved in that area of the world, it has been told to him many times over and over that the chinese are there. but as far as our intelligence and the briefings tha...

Back this city. s sinjar came to light about a year ago, where there was this huge crisis, where there were thousands who had been chased up the mountains by isis and it's what got the u.s. involved in air strikes there in iraq. >> courtney kube, thank you for helping us understand that. thank you. >> thank you. >> it is remarkable when you contrast the level of complexity and our sort of expectations of the quality of the discourse around national security and our politics. and the national security challenges that we've got. the complexity, the rapidity with which they arrive, their unpredic...

Perspective and what most people know, maybe that is inaccurate, but from my intelligence and what dr. carson's been told by people on the ground involved in that area of the world, it has been told to him many times over and over that the chinese are there. but as far as our intelligence and the briefings that dr. carson's been in, and i've certainly been in with him, he's certainly been told that the chinese are there. >> "as far as our intelligence." republican presidential front-runner ben carson and his campaign say that the source of his claim that the chinese are operating militarily in...

>> thank you. >> it is remarkable when you contrast the level of complexity and our sort of expectations of the quality of the discourse around national security and our politics. and the national security challenges that we've got. the complexity, the rapidity with which they arrive, their unpredictable nature. if there could be a better balance between what we're facing and what we're facing, we would be much better off as a country. we have a guest tonight that is really, truly plucked from the headlines. he did not set out to become a face of the interwebs right now, but there she is. she'...