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You shut down the pipelines? how do you go after the flow of gas and oil into europe? the answer is go after the control systems. and those systems around it that are attached to the network. destroy them with viruses. same thing for the financial sector, hit them with a wiper virus and make it very difficult to close at the end of the day any financial transactions. that would be a disaster for global financial communities. and in the energy sector, if you can hit the oil and gas and disrupt the flow of oil, like they did with the colonial pipeline, imagine now that you shut down the flow of ...

Little of it flowing out of russia because of financial sanctions, then we have the problems with the gas, with a price of gas in europe, we are seeing secondary impact of western european producers who are unable to produce today at the prices of gas that we see, and on top of that we are seeing the impact on farmers. farmers need to feed, fertiliser, fuel and financing and all of those are getting more expensive, especially the cost of animal feed. and last but not least the impact on the consumer which we are going to see. i consumer which we are going to see. .. ., consumer which we are go...

Sector, energy sector, and probably the governments. what can you do to embarrass the countries? what can he do to make them pay a price? already europe is feeling the pain, as is the united states, on higher gas prices, so the population, if you can get the population to feel more pain, then countries are going to start to question whether they support the sanctions at all. he is going to do that, he has got to do something to break up the sanctions. for the uninitiated, let me say on this point, what does that look like? for example, an attack on the energy sector, would it be an attack on t...

I think the most probable case is he would go after those areas that have been sanctioned. oil and gas, the finance sector, energy sector, and probably the governments. what can you do to embarrass the countries? what can he do to make them pay a price? already europe is feeling the pain, as is the united states, on higher gas prices, so the population, if you can get the population to feel more pain, then countries are going to start to question whether they support the sanctions at all. he is going to do that, he has got to do something to break up the sanctions. for the uninitiated, let me ...

They are looking at nowjust parts of eastern ukraine. where is the win for president putin? right now the only thing he can do is cyber, chemical or nuclear. those are the only three things he has got that he can win. he can say getting the donetsk and luhansk areas is a win, but he already had those. and the world and i think russia will see that as a failure. going back to your original question, he is going to attack the united states and europe, i think in cyber, to try to break up the coalition, make us pay a price. on that point, are you seeing any tell—tale signs that a big attack is ...