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They fail to do that, then no amount of military action by the united states can hold that country together. >> as our friends point out, the shiite dominated central government cannot retake sunni areas militarily. the only way would be through a political negotiation that will leave the majority of sunni stake holders to align with baghdad and turn against isis. isisi, of course, now controls hundreds of miles of territory, including key border crossings between iraq and syria. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is in iraq. isis is now moving fighters freely across these borders. they are marching toward...

Troops, that we would begin to bring those troops home in the summer of 2011. imagine karzai's position if he waited a year until it was march of next year, three, four months before the american troops began to draw back down, he would be in a much weakened bargain position. i think he may be stepping up the negotiation because he thinks his political chances are better now before the obama withdrawal begins to kick in. >> greta: how do we know when this war in afghanistan is over? it is done, we can go home. what's the sign? >> i think we have to measure it by our strategic interest. that in...

Troops, that we would begin to bring those troops home in the summer of 2011. imagine karzai's position if he waited a year until it was march of next year, three, four months before the american troops began to draw back down, he would be in a much weakened bargain position. i think he may be stepping up the negotiation because he thinks his political chances are better now before the obama withdrawal begins to kick in. >> greta: how do we know when this war in afghanistan is over? it is done, we can go home. what's the sign? >> i think we have to measure it by our strategic interest. that in...

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