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To -- and yet we hear the president was enraged that comey wouldn't speak publicly about the investigation into him or lack of investigation into him. so that is another sort of conflicting matter. >> and i think rosenstein probably believed what he wrote to the president in that memo. the question is whether he was being used, quite frankly, by the president as an excuse to fire comey and whether sessions also went along with it -- >> we've got to take a break. >> i just want to say, listen, i think we're likely to see these congressional hearings may not produce what we thought they would pr...

The 24 hours since ruddy floated this, all the key players have said you can't cross this line. >> how much do you think this was a friend of the president floating it to get the message out that it would not be a good idea? >> i don't know. it was also newt gingrich, and other people. clearly there were discussions that gave the idea of currency, perhaps as a trial balloon. and perhaps because of the catastrophic nature that was particularly because of republican reaction. you heard what sarah huckabee sanders just said. there is one silver lining perhaps. in mueller's assuming this job for d...

Certain lines are crossed and if these investigations go in a certain direction. >> i don't think so. >> there also is a real possibility that this investigation could go nowhere. but we need to see where these investigations are going and why it is these people are trying to keep us from knowing what happened. >> i don't know what republicans you're talking to, carl, but every republican i have talked to thinks impeachment is an absolutely absurd possibility. and i don't see how you can say today's testimony makes impeachment any more likely. i don't think it really moves the ball much -- >> ...