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The second issue is trump lies. he is the president of the united states. the most powerful man in the world is a liar. there's no reason for us to believe him. and in this instance, i think, he's lying and it reveals, i believe, that he's a moral monster in this. i want to say this is monstrous in his response. i want to say this, too in relation to the tax cut. that the fact that he lies here in relation to a mother, a gold star family, he's also lying with regard to whether or not this tax cut stuff will actually impact and effect working people in this country. >> let's turn to tax cuts. ....

Baldwin. mark join us. they have audio issues going on. sometimes it's tougher to do a live shot from washington than baghdad or somewhere. listen, mark. let's talk about the political angle of this. we talked about the president. i think joy behar gave -- maybe gave an answer that many americans feel that is right on. other americans are saying, no, the president should not be going to this event when there's this huge tragedy going on. and she mentioned katrina. what do you make of this and how the president should handle it? >> it's certainly one of those situations if he didn't go, what wo...