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I can pick other people two are effective. >> greg: why can't romney before we talk about jobs stuff demand president obama show proof he knew nothing about it? perhaps he is hiding something. he's hiding something. >> bob: because you'd say, wait a minute, you prove that the independent campaigns are not doing it. >> eric: why isn't romney saying anything about this? >> dana: you can make a calculation they have overreached so badly on the obama side, they will wait and let vice presidential stuff build up. let the convention get through and see. chris christie can't go out because he's gover...

I can pick other people two are effective. >> greg: why can't romney before we talk about jobs stuff demand president obama show proof he knew nothing about it? perhaps he is hiding something. he's hiding something. >> bob: because you'd say, wait a minute, you prove that the independent campaigns are not doing it. >> eric: why isn't romney saying anything about this? >> dana: you can make a calculation they have overreached so badly on the obama side, they will wait and let vice presidential stuff build up. let the convention get through and see. chris christie can't go out because he's gover...

Them like the great speeches of the '68 convention, the great speech of the '60 convention. they were barn burners. people would say, wow, what a speech. why can't romney deliver when he knows it's a big night some kind of vision? some kind of passion? >> well, i think it goes back to mitt romney's personality. and i talked along the lines that howard was making a moment ago with the veteran house republican tonight. very politically savvy. wants mitt romney to be the nominee because he thinks he would be the strongest general election candidate. here's the problem, the dogs just don't like th...

Can't romney break 25% and if we were to get place number one here, i think that would give him the push he needs to start breaking 25% in some of the future contests. so that alone would be a major accomplishment for the romney team, brooke. >> okay. so breaking the 25% is breaking an accomplishment for them. what are you looking for tonight as you watch all of this? >> well, you know the old saying in iowa is that there are only three tickets out of town here. so everybody will be looking at who places among the first three finishers. and then going to what we were just talking about, what p...

Carolina, and it's going to happen in the general election. this is the s.e.c. rules that we are playing by, or that the candidates are playing by, rather. so you're going to see the super pacs go out in front and they're going to be aggressor, on the offense, doing the nastier ads while the candidating can stockhold that money they're taking in and keep it for later on down the road. >> michael, should we take seriously the idea that there's no official link between these so-called super pacs and the candidates? i mean, it seems like it's a fiction. >> it is a partial fiction. i mean, that wa...