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Have called this a crime scene back even friday, i got here the day after it happened. they called it a crime scene then. therefore, they're in control of everything. and they don't -- they have to do their job, and they -- until they do their job, we can't go in to do samples of materials and take those samples and test them to understand what the various components of the building that came down was. >> and is that typical? is that part of the process that you've expeernszed in the past, or is this abnormal? >> i've not run into that before. >> what do you most want access to. what can't wai...

Because it was 1995. it was really tough even to find food in russia at that point. i came home skinny and my wife said, oh, my word, how was it? i said man, it was rough. can't waiting to back. she's like what? are you crazy? i'm like no, it's an amazing place. >> in what way? >> it's difficult, you know. >> you're stuck out in the middle of nowhere. there is no television. it's 40 below zero and you got a chain saw. >> yeah. it's hard, it's difficult. you got to be thinking on your feet. it's this tough situation and these tough conditions where i don't know, just beckons some people back an...