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Stand still. last year 19 states introduced legislation to allow concealed carry guns on campus. in an op-ed for the boston globe, forcefully argued that that needs to change. joining me now is one of the voices behind the piece, tom menino. thank you so much for being here. what's the reaction to the latest shooting in seattle? >> you know, why can't we -- this is not about gun control. it's about crime control. and when you said your child to a college you expect a safe place and now they are trying to change that guns being on college campuses. doesn't make a lot of sense to most persons. i...

Same issues -- >> why can't we -- i don't believe that acute focus on the military is warranted. i think shoour sure, they're probably falling short, but they have more in place than the rest of society does especially when you get to issues about who's allowed to have a conceal carry permit. seems like there's very poor communication on that level. even the nra is in favor of better communication between agencies trying to figure it out. >> you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. i agree with you in terms of services and funding that they have a lot more in face. what the...

Kind of gave them the win by legitimizing their stance. so it's really interesting how different people are responding to this debate. >> jacqueline, did -- >> a lot of people were -- >> did anybody say, hey, can't we have both? >> a lot of people said, hey, can't we have both. and that was really surprising. on social media, there were a lot of people that were asking, well, why can't we -- why does religion and science always have to be at odds, and there were even a lot of pastors and people who did say, hey, i'm christian and ken ham doesn't speak for me, you know, i do have a different st...

You trying to put a stop to that? >> again, dana, i would say that our policies, the underlying prescriptions that we have for people is what most are concerned about, men and women. >> now, one of the big problems republicans across the board admit that they have in reaching female voters is that they don't have that many female candidates, representatives. right now, in the house majority, a great example, 232 republicans, a big number, of those 232 republicans, 19 are women. only 19 female republicans in the house of representatives. that is another thing that they're trying to change insid...

Limit people's ability to move up and education now is kind of the leading indicator of that. i'm not sure how exceptional that is. >> governor, over the weekend there was an interesting piece about what we need to do. and he pointing to returning prestige to the teacher profession, which is to say make it more difficult to become a teacher in college. make it like becoming a lawyer or doctor, pay more then at the end of that. why can't we, and i understand budgets and i understand the fiscal community, the climate we live in right now. why can't we pay teachers more and pay them what they des...