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But in exchange north korea has to curtail, degrade their nuclear and their missile cape canability, especially if their potential ability which is happening to reach the united states. i think there's a trade off there. >> rick, you're shaking your head no way. >> a couple points. one, i agree with the ambassador richardson. i think there's more we could be doing. we've got to get newicters in, that's true. i'm not a fan of unilateral sanctions. i think they never work except in the case of banking sanctions. we have yet to try banking sanctions on the country of china ---ing. >> not to inter...

Yeah. let's try to make it a goal but to realistically think it's going to happen under kim jong-un, it's not going to happen. so let's have a framework agreement that phase into a serious degrading of their military capability, missile and nuclear. that's the best we can do. >> the problem with that, ambassador, is that we tried that. wendy sureman was duped. even hillary clinton decide -- >> 20 seconds. >> i think that we tried to talk way too much and strategic patience has proven not to be beneficial. we now see 12 missile tests this year alone. miniaturization of a nuclear war head. >> i'...

Thing we know that the pings are happening. where the aircraft is related to those pings it could be a larger area than they are searching. i'm confident we are looking in the right place. >> right general area. jeff wise, experts say they are looking in the highest probability area. ten kilometer radius around the second ping signal, the ping detected for 13 minutes. could it be in this area and they are just not finding it you think? >> well, it was the highest probability area in their estimation. it no longer is the highest probability. now as you said we have 20% more to go. once that has...