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Use their tools, and among the tools are the ability to interview witnesses, and if the government prevents him from interviewing wilts and he is convicted, he has a built-in appealable issue and the last thing the government wants is to convict him and then the conviction overturned. >> would the bostonnans be concerned? >> that would be the worst ever. it's bad enough that this is going to probably go to a trial and they're going to be people dragged into these proceedings, shep. but to have a kind of case presented that then has grounds for appeal, just keeps not only all the wounds open, s...

From injuries he sustained on that day as you know. he never really seemed to make eye contact with a single victim or those of us in the gallery. but he certainly has not shown any kind of a remorse. there were some tears from family members as the death sentence was announced yesterday. some consoling going on. you know, yesterday was really about the family members and the victims t was about finally being able to get some closer nearly four years after the attack on this post, bill. bill: you know, casey, we're looking at the appeals process now. and this is something that could go on for ...

Again? these people lost their lives. they are dead. they are gone. their families are grieving. this is going on a very longtime. the appeals, kesha, the automatic appeal could go on for decades. >> it could take numerous years. you have to wait for a brief to be submitted and the appellate division will make a decision, and it doesn't happen overnight, especially in a capital case. with this decision the only justice given to the family members is that it won't happen right away. he will suffer and spend like you said decades in prison. >> do you think he would represent himself on the appea...

Carried out this shooting. remember hasan fired his defense team and said he wanted to represent himself. clearly he has the right to do so. he is not a lawyer. he is a army psychiatrist. he doesn't really know about the letter of the law, so the judge deemed those attorneys standby counsel. so they sit at the defense table with him. they help him file motions, walk him through procedural matters, court-martial lingo. more of a consulting role really. they arguing that they can't in good conscience continue to assist if the accused murderer is not going to fight for his life, since this is a c...

Case here against the major. however, there is a reason for them to be very careful, especially with a major defending himself and that is? >> sure. this is a case they want to stick. when you have someone defending himself, you have to make sure everything, the lines are all taken care of because it can be an appellate issue. you don't observe see people defending themselves, especially in a capital case. you sometimes see it in misdemeanor cases but rarely felony cases and i don't think i've seen it in a death penalty case. they will have standby attorneys next to him and they spent a lot of...