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Praising the taliban. let's watch. >> all he had to do was leave the soldiers there until everything is out. our citizens. our weapons. then bomb the hell out of the bases. we have five bases. and you say bye-bye. taliban, great negotiators. tough fighters. great negotiators. >> top officials in trump's administration are calling the former president out for making a deal with the taliban in 2020. here's trump's former national security adviser h.r. mcmaster. >> our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement to the taliban. >> you are talking about mike pompeo? >> yes. this collapse goes ...

After. i think we have to look at the day before the day before and how did we get here? why are they so clogged at the airport? the state department, homeland security, we're told by the trump administration that they didn't want to process this. we have thousands of visas waiting to be processed. the trump administration didn't want to allow those people to come to the united states. >> let me ask you this. former national security adviser hr mcmaster. he had something to say about how the trump administration handled the laying of the groundwork of this withdrawal from afghanistan. if we ha...

Mcmaster says it was his former administration that surrendered to the taliban. >> our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement to the taliban. >> you're talking about mike pompeo? >> yes. this collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. the taliban didn't defeat us, we defeated ourselves. what's worse is, we threw the afghans under the bus on our way out. >> the reality is, both parties own this fiasco. former president george w. bush turned from afghanistan to iraq for a war of choice over weapons of mass destruction that were never found. obama did not end the war. trum...

>> we signed a surrender agreement to the taliban. >> you're talking about mike pompeo? >> yes. this collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. the taliban didn't defeat us. we defeated ourselves. >> joining me now, political strategist and biden campaign consultant and a lease jordan, msnbc political analyst. she also worked at headquarters for the nato led mission in kabul. as i welcome you both, elise, you spent time in kabul. was this deal a surrender? do you see an alternative to what went down? >> surely it was a weak deal. we had no room to negotiate, we had no leverage, ...

Capitulation agreement of 2020. the taliban didn't defeat us. we defeated ourselves. >> "the new york times" notes neither trump nor pompeo has responded to such criticism with contrition, surprise, surprise. president biden's defense of the withdrawal from afghanistan and the reckoning over how we got here through multiple administrations is where we start at this hour. michael crowley, "new york times" diplomatic correspondent, joins us, also with us, susannah george, "washington post" afghanistan and pakistan bureau chief. let me start, susannah, with your latest reporting on what the presi...