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Captain iq. what do you think of this speculation that either rudy giuliani or mick mulvaney or ambassador gordon sondland could become the fall guy for the theory, okay, it was wrong. what happened was wrong, but the president didn't do it? >> i've been talking about that on the show. i've been saying that, that air force one is going to back up over rudy giuliani, forward, back, forward, back, and whoever else gets in the president's way because this president doesn't want to fall. he's going to have a fall guy. he's going to say he was framed or something or they're going to come up with so...

Happening here that he doesn't want talked about. >> yeah. listen, i think it's great if he goes. just don't, you know -- i don't want any division caused, right? >> that's why my pop would never go, you know. when he was governor, he wouldn't go because he said, this is people's time off and time away from people like me. i don't want to bring politics into their fun time. >> yeah, a agree with that. i think a game like this, especially it's a read state. i know that there's a governor's race in louisiana, part of the reason he's going, but i just don't like the division. go, but just don't c...