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When he was on the ground. that right there is bases for federal rights charges. does the memphis police department have a more systemic problem that ought to be investigated? the justice department will go in and investigate and negotiate some kind of settlement ideally with the police department and the community to make things better in the city. >> we have seen some departments welcome that. other departments resist it. how does that play out? >> usually they do. usually it's a collaborative process. it's a negotiation and in every negotiation not everybody gets what they want. most of the...

So they have this video. the family has seen the video but there are other things that the police department could be doing and could have been done to this point to answer some specific questions, hopefully that will come with the district attorney today, because they are obviously concerned about poisoning the jury and they're worried about witnesses but there still needs to be more transparency and more information that needs to come out because just the basic information of why they stopped tyre nichols and basic information of what happened afterwards, that kind of stuff has not still com...

Described is brutal and is going to be certainly very difficult for people to watch. >> shimon, stay with us as we continue the conversation. i want to bring in for insight the former federal prosecutor elliot williams and former captain johnson. you have your ferguson experience. we have all lived through how the country and minneapolis reacted after george floyd. you heard shimon lay out charges announced this afternoon. video released tomorrow. do you see that as an effort by the prosecutor and by law enforcement to try to build some credibility in the community about the investigation and ...

That's not -- they are doing a great job. i think if we look at some past incidents in our country, there have been some mistakes made. i think they've learned from that and it shows in their response. >> and captain johnson, let me stay with you for a second. shimon is in a city that's on edge. you are in ferguson. you have an understanding of the emotions here. a, what law enforcement preparations are under way and what can whether it's the police chief, whether it's the d.a. this afternoon, whether it's the mayor, whether it's community leaders, what must be said at this moment to tell peop...

Think this is important, john, are very worried about. very worried about the reaction and are very worried for their businesses, for their homes so there's a lot of concern here and i think we'll try to see the police in the next day or so try as best as they could alleviate some of those concerns. >> for folks watching at home, captain johnson, help us understand, you have police investigating police here. and then police cooperating with the district attorney saying here's the evidence that we have. the district attorney obviously has seen the video. has the full -- we played a snippet of t...