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Us who are boring and can only talk about our kids. give us advice. what are things we should small talk about? >> people stay away from religion and politics but i think those are fun things to talk about at parties. >> absolutely. >> just pretend you're on "the cycle" when you're at a party. not a love cycle but "the cycle." i think that would be great. ar ask people questions, hey, what are you doing? i don't think all moms are the same. for moms out there that are like that, just ask questions and nod. >> and don't judge. okay. got it. jen kirk nan, thanks so much. >> thank you, guys. we...