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$130,000 michael cohen gives out and cara media. the question you ask and there is great reporting in "the new yorker" and a lot of it corroborates the details, why do you spend that much money for a story you kill? >> that's a great question. america media has said it was not able to corroborate that story, but i think that there -- >> pause there. everyone think what you see in the national inquirer and ask yourself if that's credit nl. >> american media wasn't able to corroborate the story but did in fact pay $150,000. it also said that it was going to basically give her a column, a fitness...

And cohen, you know, what we realize the in the course of our reporting over the last couple months while michael cohen, trump's personal attorney wasn't directly involved in that agreement between cara, he was collecting details and from her personal attorney who was also the same attorney for stormy daniels. >> oh, right. it's the same attorney for both of these women representing both of them. each of them end up with payments and in one case it's $130,000 michael cohen gives out and cara media. the question you ask and there is great reporting in "the new yorker" and a lot of it corroborat...