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As though your blueprint is going to work fast enough to help save lives in ukraine. well, it's not my blueprint. i'm suggesting that this is an avenue... or your strategy. this is the likely outcome of where, you know, the events will actually take us. but you're right to then ask ourselves what we, the west, should be doing as we see this carnage play out on our tv screens. and i believe public opinion will demand us to do more. we've been far too hesitant, too risk averse in arming the ukrainians themselves. you touched on the fact that we're having this debate between defensive weapon syst...

Four pillars, as you say, to kind of take effect. so what's your idea to stop the killing now? because it doesn't seem as though your blueprint is going to work fast enough to help save lives in ukraine. well, it's not my blueprint. i'm suggesting that this is an avenue... or your strategy. this is the likely outcome of where, you know, the events will actually take us. but you're right to then ask ourselves what we, the west, should be doing as we see this carnage play out on our tv screens. and i believe public opinion will demand us to do more. we've been far too hesitant, too risk averse i...

In ukraine, china abstained. it didn't veto. yeah. but all these things that you're suggesting are going to take a little bit of time, aren't they? they are. and people in ukraine are being killed now while you're waiting for these four pillars, as you say, to kind of take effect. so what's your idea to stop the killing now? because it doesn't seem as though your blueprint is going to work fast enough to help save lives in ukraine. well, it's not my blueprint. i'm suggesting that this is an avenue... or your strategy. this is the likely outcome of where, you know, the events will actually take...