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Senate republicans, called him a liar. he was on the leading edge of the government shutdown over obamacare in 2013. he has called his republican colleagues squishes. i think he, you know, his whole brand, he's -- that he's willing to take the fight to the establishment here in washington. >> who would the gop establishment, old school republican leadership, prefer, cruz or trump? >> that's the most fun question a reporter could ask a member of the establishment, one they don't want to answer. on one hand, ted cruz has been an enemy of the so-called establishment here in washington. a lot of t...

Platitudes, which is what donald trump continued to serve up. he had exposure to 20 million people. they looked at that and said, okay, this is somebody who we think could potentially be president of the united states. he did well. >> carly fiorina did well in the debate. she's also the first person we've seen go at donald trump and win. >> handle him. >> in the past, you've gone at trump and lost. let me ask you something, carson go down, trump go down, do you think we've seen the peak for those two men? >> possibly. i think when you look at what happened after wednesday, substance actually m...