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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:38:00

That amazing ability of his to take criticism and to see the importance of criticism, of cartooning, of good journalism in the country. and that puts him head and shoulders above most politicians, most statesmen. let s talk now about your relationship with more recent south african leaders, and in particular, i want to focus onjacob zuma, cos it s one thing to draw a leader with a slipping halo. your treatment of zuma was on a different scale. and most people in south africa will think of your characterisation of zuma with a showerhead coming out of the top of his head. it became a huge thing in this country. what was it about? in 2006, when zuma was already embroiled in controversy around corruption charges, he suddenly got a rape charge against him, ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 03:38:00

i really want to say something. i m just amazed that you called me personally, but even more so because in the four years since i met you, you would ve seen the cartoons becoming more and more critical of the anc and of government, and he said, oh, but that is yourjob. and for me, thatjust personified that amazing ability of his to take criticism and to see the importance of criticism, of cartooning, of good journalism in the country. and that puts him head and shoulders above most politicians, most statesmen. let s talk now about your relationship with more recent south african leaders. in particular, i want to focus onjacob zuma, cos it s one thing to draw a leader with a slipping halo. your treatment of zuma was on a different scale. and most people in south africa will think of your characterisation of zuma with a shower head coming out of the top of his head. it became a huge thing in this country. what was it about? ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 03:31:00

He is south africa s most prominent, most controversial political cartoonist. so, amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? ....

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:31:15

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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 22:38:00

But that is yourjob. and for me, thatjust personified that amazing ability of his to take criticism and to see the importance of criticism, of cartooning, of good journalism in the country. and that puts him head and shoulders above most politicians, most statesmen. let s talk now about your relationship with more recent south african leaders. in particular, i want to focus onjacob zuma. and in particular, i want to focus onjacob zuma, cos it s one thing to draw a leader with a slipping halo. your treatment of zuma was on a different scale. and most people in south africa will think of your characterisation of zuma with a showerhead coming out of the top of his head. it became a huge thing in this country. what was it about? in 2006, when zuma was already embroiled in controversy around ....

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