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Working at the fbi? >> my understanding and some are. >> why are they still there? >> you have to ask director wray. >> about carter page's relationship with other intelligence agencies and our government who directly misled the oi about that? >> that person is still there. >> laura: does that took your breath away? it took mine when i watched it live. apparently the fbi is just letting rampant political bias run amok in the agency. you heard the inspector general saying they are still working at the fbi, case agent number one. that's important because the report labels case agent number one a...

Mitigating fact. >> why wasn't it? >> that's the question that michael horowitz was unable to answer as well. >> and he said he was unsatisfied with what he heard from the testimony of everyone involved here. that oh, it was we were overloaded with work. he said he couldn't figure out -- there was no satisfactory explanation for it. he infers maybe it was political. >> that's a really big leap, i think, for horowitz or barr or any of the republican senators to make yesterday. and here's why. you have to look at the scope of horowitz review. a million documents. 170 interviews. the personal tex...

Facts. what the director signs off on is an affirmation that the fisa is for an appropriate or authorized purpose. the director suspect attesting to the accuracy of the facts. that's what the case agent does. he attests to the agent's acc accuracy of the facts. >> on the specifics, though, for instance the idea that the fbi interviewed one of christopher steele's sources. that wasn't put in application. you agree that was a mistake. >> absolutely. absolutely. the mistakes outlined by the ig in the development of those facts of what was shared with the court and what was not shared with the cou...

>> same answer. >> your response? >> well, certainly people in charge of organizations are ultimately responsible for the things those organizations do. that would include director comey and i in this issue as well. however, i think it's really important for your viewers to understand how this works in the fbi. essentially each case is run by a case agent. and the responsibility for the development of the investigation and particularly important here, the verification of facts that go into a fisa package, that happens at the case agent level between he and his first level supervisor. once that...

Now like to sandra, he is not a source, he is an aggregator of information. steele had not been in russia since 1998 when his cover was blown. he hasn't set foot in the place in 20 years. he is operating in reliance on a network of sources vis-a-vis him the information is all second hand and third hand at best. so he is not a source. he is not somebody that you would in an ordinary case say to the court you can rely on this person's information. he is somebody who is like a case agent, who accumulates information from people who actually made the op -- observations you're asking the court to r...