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Do you think that happened from your perspective? >> no. i don't. i think he was all over the place. page, he didn't meet with people like on the stage when he was over there. and this was a -- if you're involved in espionage, you're not announcing you're making a speech. and he was involved in a case back in 2013 when he worked with the fbi against a russian operation and the fbi also knows that their investigation in that case said that carter page is an idiot and can never be used for any type of espionage. i can't believe they were taking him that seriously and again, if you're doing espio...

There was a case back in 1998 when arkansas and i'm not going to mention the name of the subjects because that's not important. we don't want to bring any more publicity but it was similar where they used a fire alarm to get people to exit and it would allow the subject to open fire. as we hear more and more of that where we had a witness earlier with jake tapper saying that the call went out that there was a lockdown, yet you still have a fire alarm being pulled, was that someone fleeing in panic thinking i'm going to help my fellow students or something that the subject did on his own. >> ho...

I feel really convicted that i answer to god at the end of the day, like that's who i'm going to see when i die. and i hope that we can live up to our -- i hope we can live up to who we are. >> reporter: the pastor is clear eyed about the risk. >> we're trusting in god that he would kind of help us, guide us to make the reright decision. >> reporter: it doesn't mean it's an easy choice. >> there is some element we're entering into that i don't totally know exactly what the consequences are, but what the moral consequences are for me if we do not, this is the moment to be standing idly by. >> r...

Coverage. if the government loses, we will make sure those people keep their health care in one form or another. >> hi, katherine. it must have been an exciting day for you in court. i was there. i'm curious most about justice roberts because we know that he was the deciding factor last time. he usually, you know, keeps it pretty close to the vest. but could you get as a lawyer any read by the questions he was asking how he might be thinking on this? >> reporter: you know, he was really quiet today which is a bit unusual for him in a really big case like this. he didn't have a lot to say. on t...

Video demands they made. they would have been i think quite alert to the fact that a rescue attempt was possible. >> is -- snatching a page out of the i the isis's book. they are more likely to hold for ransom. where we seeing is a shift. >> yemen is a place where kidnapping for ransom is endemic. i spent time there in fact narrowly being kidnapped by myself. and it is quite unusual in yemen more people to be killed. there was a case back in 1998 where a group of western hostages was taken by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula or a predecessor group. a hostage operation was mounted by the gover...