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Trust them to govern or trust them to honor an election result again. >> the biden administration seems to have clarified today that they will review what they -- they used the phrase on case by case basis, claims of executive privilege when it comes to handing over documents to the -- to the committee. what are you expecting as the responsible froech to in. >> that is the responsible approach. what would be irresponsible would be to give donald trump any benefit of the doubt or to, you know, have a standard that, well, we should just sweep this under the rug. in many ways what the carter admi...

To go to phil's point. whether they had the credibility inside the fbi to be believed and what some question whether the fbi had gotten the information that this assault was unfolding, but didn't believe what the informant was telling him from the ground. so there are a lot of issues here and i think we'll get to the executive privilege further down the line, i would imagine. when the white house decides whether it has enough that it must, that it should override executive privilege. >> as we heard jen psaki say, they are looking at it on a case by case basis, but the framework going into it i...

Seek, as was alluded to, by the chair today, criminal contempt proceedings from a department of -- justice that will treat this as they treat any other lawful subpoena that is not honored, and of course to press the case in the courts knowing that, on the mcgahn case at least, we now have recent president that they should testify. as i said, lawrence, they have time on their. side it is important that if -- before we go into another major election, the country knows just to these people are and why we cannot trust them to govern or trust them to honor an election result. again the biden admini...

Wondering, the data is still, you know, sketchy on the long-term impact and usefulness of the existing vaccines we have. is it your sense that they're good for life or in reality, that we're going to have to check back every couple of years? >> it's unlikely that they're probably good for life because we know that we're already seeing breakthrough infections in the elderly group we've seen some that led to the booster recommendations. i think there are some with a second generation that's more robust. we've got to see are they getting severe infections landing them in the hospital. and that to...

Violating women's constitutional rights and as we see in other parts of the world, afghanistan. it sad these political battles are being fought on the bodies of women and their families. it's really, really troubling in this moment for human rights not just women's rights. >> you're absolutely right. the notion, kim, of having to try to achieve equality on a case by case basis, that's not the way a democracy can actually work and as they say, it's only republic if you can keep it. not a way to keep it, thank you for your time. nice talking to you, as always. >> always, thank you, laura. spea...