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Case counts are declineing and science has changed, responsibility should shift from government mandate imposed from the state or local district and shift to individual responsibility by the family. >> ashley: it is constant shifting. you can't keep track of what they say, does this have something to do with the midterm? >> joe: oh, ashley, science has not changed whatsoever, political calculation has changed. i've watched that medical analyst on cnn for the past two years. she has been as pro-mfk in schools and in general as anybody on television. for her to say now things are changing on the...

You know was raging across the country. in many places omicron is getting to be in the rear view. what is the outlook, do you believe, for let's say february, march, april, as you talk about you want to continue to forge ahead and look ahead? >> well, there's always uncertainty to we will never put too much emphasis on one month but we are seeing positive developments on case counts and hospitalizations on come cron. we know people need to get vaccinated, boosted and as we do that we can hopefully continue to make progress on the vaccine front and continue this economic recovery as well. takin...

Joining us to discuss, the dean of the brown university of public health, if analyzing waste water can give scientists a clearer and quicker picture of covid infections in a community, should public health professionals go off that data rather than case counts from testing? >> yes, first, thank you for having me back. we've known for almost two years now that waste water is a really good sort of early warning signal. people just start passing it through their g.i. tract. it gets out there and before they get symptoms and even before they get tested. when testing is low and it is hard to track,...

Hospitalizations on it. but you mentioned this death count. still averaging 2462 of our friends and neighbors, fellow americans dying from covid yesterday. i have -- already have a fourth shot. a fourth shot because i'm immunocompromised. you got a fourth shot. you think the white house should be doing more to promote fourth shot for which populations? >> from the very beginning, they should have had the third shot the moment the israeli data came in. the reason i got the fourth shot is we're in very vulnerable groups. i saw the data. actually saw the data from israel from people who aren't so...

Surveillance approach phins announced in 2020, one that identifieds wastewater. it's called the national wastewater surveillance system and including sites. it flags possible future covid surges to get resources into place and to warn hospitals. >> the covid in the waste water comes up before it started coming to the attention in the hospital. really interesting. the reverse is true too. the levels go down before the case counts go down in the local area. so it's a really great indicator of what's going to half. cases are going to continue to decline. >> reporter: but it pain as clear picture ...