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The trump white house or trump advisers and the violent extremists that showed up like the proud boys and the oath keepers? and is the seizing of john eastman's phone records tied to that, do you think, or something different? >> it's hard to say. i think one of the gaps left in what we've seen from the committee so far has been these links, the potential connections between the white house and the campaign and the violent extremists. i don't know that john eastman was really in that piece of the conspiracy. it seems to me that folks like roger stone, meg flynn maybe were more of the links. i ...

The justice department releasing a legal opinion today supporting the treasury secretary's refusal to turn over six years of president trump's tax returns to the house ways and means committee. let's talk about this now with evan perez and elie honig. so good to have both of you on. evan, i'm going to start with you. so we had this legal opinion. what is the doj arguing here? >> well, don, the justice department is arguing that richard neal, the chairman of the house and ways and means committee and the democrats are essentially lying when they say that they need access to the president's six ...

To be a legitimate legislative purpose, guess who that's up to? that's up to congress. it's not for doj to say we don't believe you. if that's the case doj will take over the legislative function from congress. i think congress is going to prevail if they take this to court. >> elie, another question, the office of legal counsel, their argument is 33 pages, okay, but then you look at the tax code, at least on this, is written, and it's very plainly written, upon written request from the chairman of the committee on ways and means of the house of representatives the secretary shall furnish such...

No one could reasonably believe that the committee seeks six years of the president's tax returns because of newly discovered interest in legislating on the presidential audit process." they -- steve engle goes on to mention that comments made by neal as well as speaker pelosi seems to indicate that what they really want to do is release the president's taxes publicly and that's the reason why they're asking for it. >> elie, democrats will no doubt take this to court. will they win is the question? >> they absolutely should. this analysis by doj is just garbage. it doesn't even stand up to the...

Congress is lying, that the democrats are lying. that what they want to do is release these taxes publicly which they say is not a legitimate purpose. i think the quarcourts are goin decide and elie is right this is very likely to turn out the way of the democrats arguing. >> elie, can we go back to something you were saying. i want to dig deeper. you said this is william barr's justice department doing what he wants them to do, which is what the president wants him to do. william barr's acting more like a private law firm for the president and not the attorney general of the united states. >>...